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Post by jshobes on Jan 20, 2004 22:20:29 GMT -5
Good topic. One point I'm sure we've all noticed though: You can be slutty without dressing so and dress slutty without acting so. But the girls who DO dress a certain way to gain attention need to realize that you can catch someone's eye without paying more money to get less clothing (honestly, who wants to pay $50 for a skirt that's hardly going to cover your ass?...which happens to be one reason I as well refuse to support abercrombie). I also love love LOVE the comment about the body being a beautiful thing. We all pack on some extra weight now and then, and I, for one, happen to be very content with my extra baggage. I've also come to notice the abundance of "Size Zero's" all throughout your local shopping mall....disgusting. Hey, if you're a natural size zero, more power to ya. If not, there's no need to resort to crazy diet plans or worse. You're still beautiful, I don't care who you are. Aaaaaand one last point (for any girl who thinks you need to dress to impress). I've heard SOOOOOOO many guys say they prefer natural beauty. I know we all feel the need to pretty ourselves up sometimes (hell I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have makeup and cute clothes some days) but it's not necessarily what defines your beauty. My boyfriend's got good taste and of course enjoys it when I dress up...but he's told me time and time again that he prefers me in sweatpants and a tshirt, no makeup, hardly any effort put into my appearance. And I couldn't agree more. Everyone's got natural beauty
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Post by H-Zence on Jan 20, 2004 22:32:06 GMT -5
Well, you're boyfriend's smart. ;D
You know what I hate from Abercrombie? Those sweat-skirt things. They're so skanky...they're HIDEOUS.
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Post by Ash on Jan 21, 2004 8:12:08 GMT -5
You know what I hate from Abercrombie? Those sweat-skirt things. They're so skanky...they're HIDEOUS. ew I know. That's one good thing about summer being over...haha honestly, who wants to pay $50 for a skirt that's hardly going to cover your ass Precisely! Way overpriced. But apparently there are enough people willing to pay that much, which is why Abercrombie is still in business after all these years. My boyfriend's got good taste and of course enjoys it when I dress up...but he's told me time and time again that he prefers me in sweatpants and a tshirt, no makeup, hardly any effort put into my appearance. aw that's cool. It's nice he appreciates it when you dress-up yet also likes it when you wear a tshirt/sweats. That's a nice balance. yay for tshirts and sweatpants...there are definitely certain days where I'd rather wear that than ''dress up".
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 22, 2004 18:38:55 GMT -5
I didnt realize there were decent conversations going on over here in the ventilation chamber. But of course i must throw my two cents into the pot. As much as id love to pin all the blame on girls we have to realize that guys do the same thing, just in a not so visual way. I read a book on this issue called "Every young mans battle"(good book, i recomend it for both guys and girls) and this reminded me of one of the things he said. "Girls give sex to get emotions, guys give emotions to get sex" Although this is not true for everyone but its a pretty good point he makes. Its an endless cycle, girls want emotions from guys and they know how to get it. But yeah anyway I defenetly respect any girl who knows how to dress and doesnt have to squeez into clothing. All you girls should tell your friends that to. I have no problem with make up but if i can tell your wearing it then i dont like it. Just be yourself, dont distract me so much, and good things will happen, there will be a great deal of respect coming from this side.
As for the whole swearing thing, thats a tight subject. Not quiet as tihgt as modesty though(get it?). Yeah im not sure what my oppinion is on this, i used to be hardcore about christians should swear at all and im still leaning there but its changed a little. Yes you can swear to use emphasis but thats the easy way out. it takes real skills to use your voice to show the emphasis. I can out just as much emphasis and passion into things without swearing. Its not to hard. you just have to have a decent vocabulary. Thats another thing, having a large vocabulary is much much better then using swear words. I mean if you want to really impress people just throw in big words and they will see the emphasis. One of the reasons people swear is cuz they cant think of a word cuz they dont learn in school, or as i like to call it...lack of inteligence
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Post by Lynnet on Jan 22, 2004 21:24:12 GMT -5
There were never any size 0s around when I needed them! ::Sigh:: I personally like wearing tight clothes, especially shirts, because it's just more comfortable for me. And I have been known to flaunt a bit of cleavage I am quite lucky and happy with what I have, and enjoy what attention I get because of it. But of course there are the two or three days a week that I just need the comfort of a hoodie sweatshirt I care so much more about the emotional part of a relationship than physical part...it seems so stupid to back up such a commitment with something that could be destroyed at any moment in a car accident or health issue. Also, I almost *never* wear makeup...or do much with my hair, since I like it so much (most of the time.) It's just far too much work. And as for Abercrombie and whatnot....::Shudder:: Some of the denim stuff they have I could probably make...just get a 10"x24" piece of denim, sew it in a loop, attach a few pockets, and then sit it out in the rain and snow for a couple years, periodically hitting it with rocks...INSANE prices....give me the massive clearance section at Kohl's or sales at Sears and JC Penny any day
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Post by Ash on Jan 22, 2004 21:30:28 GMT -5
Joel! My friend told me about "Every Young Man's Battle". I'm planning to borrow it to read sometime soon. It sounds really interesting...
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 22, 2004 22:07:49 GMT -5
Awesome, i hope you enjoy the book. Just dont think to harshly of guys when you read it :-)
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Post by JohnnyJihadFace on Jan 22, 2004 23:01:01 GMT -5
I agree with you all. What is the point of wearing next to nothin? But another thing that bothers me is people who swear. Those words are useless to the conversation. What is the point of saying them? Unless you are referring to a donkey or a butt But I noticed noone uses those words in those ways No, "swear" words aren't useless. You are SOCIALIZED to think they they are "bad" and "rude". This is only futhered with the fact that your a christian, who look down on anything and everything they don't consider moral and forget to look at themselves. that was rude, sorry, its staying. Anyway back to useless swear words. Wrong. You see they help you emphasize your emotions, they help you make clear, concise points, as well as helping you express disgust in some instances, and absolute love and happiness in others. Okay, now its time for you to throw the whole "then use other words with the same meanings like screw, heck, darn" blah blah bullshit two reasons First. "swear words" arent bad, they don't need to be replaced with toned down ones for the sake of pleasing someone who for the most retarded reasons imaginable thinks they are bad. Second. (which aids my first) Why the FUCK does it matter if we change the words we use when THEY HAVE THE SAME MEANING? Oh I know, because you are socialized to be over sensitive to words that some people consider vulgar. Why do they consider them vulgar? Well lets see Shit = Feces. So does crap, poop etc. Fuck = Procreate, intercourse. So does sex, screw, etc. Damn = condemn so does ... well, condemn, darn, etc. Ass = Posterior so does butt, rear, etc. Any more examples needed? For the record: I am COMPLETELY aware that people who constantly swear sound stupid, I understand this, and experience this. Please dont group me with the group of babbling idiots who say fuck 30 times in a 5 minute period while not being able to hold a real conversation. It is the people who can show themselves to be atleast relatively intelligent and not worry about "swear" words that I respect the most.
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Post by pwrtrip9000 on Jan 23, 2004 16:59:06 GMT -5
Call me crazy, cause, incidentally... ...I am, However, I just also happen to be a guy. Being male with this over abundance of testosterone flowing in my blood makes me a bit of an authority on the subject of women and the clothes they wear. In all honesty, it doesn't take the supertight clothes or extreme lack of material shirts and what not that seem to be out in the market to turn a guys head. I can say in all honesty that sweats can be extremely sexy. As much as I find myself looking a those women who do dress slutty, I know that I would never try to hook up with a woman like that, cause I'm looking for someone with a bit more substance. Personality is first and foremost on my list with physical attractiveness running a close second, though it's not the priority.
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Post by Lynnet on Jan 23, 2004 20:53:13 GMT -5
A most hilarious thing I found in some random person's AIM buddy info.... If Abercrombie decided that breathin wasnt "cool" then half the teenage population would suffocate in 24 hours. Copy n paste in ur profile if u agree.
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Post by jk on Jan 23, 2004 22:25:10 GMT -5
To the thread of swearing, I am one of those people, that if you only slightly know, that you look at funny and ask did you just swear? I cant believe i just heard that. Its not that i think swearing is wrong and you will be damned, sorry condemned, for all eternity if you do. It's mostly just a personal choice. Sure every once in a while ill ride around singing to tenacious d for the shear hell of it cause it makes me laugh but in my usual vocabulary i try to keep swearing out. It's not like i have grown up in the most pious christian family sure my dad was menonite but he's the only one in the house that swears. Other than the fact that this has just turned into ramblings with no point i do draw the line when people swear as every other word. That is just rediculous. There is such thing as a vocabulary and if you limit yourself to four letter words you are really missing out on what you could be saying. Yeah i think thats the end of my rambling if anyone cares
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 25, 2004 21:17:42 GMT -5
I personally like wearing tight clothes, especially shirts, because it's just more comfortable for me. And I have been known to flaunt a bit of cleavage I am quite lucky and happy with what I have, and enjoy what attention I get because of it. But of course there are the two or three days a week that I just need the comfort of a hoodie sweatshirt So what your saying is you like having guys stare at your boobs? You like people giving you extra attention just because of what is on the outside? You like having people think indecent things about you in class? why do you feel you need the extra attention? If you like tight close so much then wear an undershirt
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Post by aquaorca on Jan 29, 2004 21:50:12 GMT -5
at age 21 i may be one of the older people in here. ive had my ups and downs with self esteem and looks through my years. ive never been into name brand clothes, barely even went in a gap or express my untire life. i see no point. A body is just a thing you lug around and houses whats really important. yes, it is usually better to lug less than more, but as long as you are physically healthy there is no problem with a little extra weight. ive never been too chubby or nerdy or anything. but growing up was constantly picked on.(side pony tail, not much chest in middle school,(still not much now), pants that were too short. i let my mother dress be almost through middle school. I do buy my own clothes now, dont mind rummaging the 50cent bins at good will or scavenging the 75 pecent off racks at boscovs or khols. its like a game. to find whatever you like for a good price. i dont like just having one style. normally its sweater and jean, some liked to call me sweater girl. but im branching out, i have a few tight, short clothes but not cuz i feel i need them, i have a great bf who wouldnt care if i wore a garbage bag, and hates the fact people wear makeup, but because i like to express how i feel on different days. way too many people put so much time energy and money into making themselves look "beautiful" just think how happy we would all be if we gave our attitudes and mind so much attention. To conclude, dont judge people by their outward appearance and dont let it get to you when others judge you. well unless you are dirty, then go take a bath, ill buy you soap. confidence comes from within. and just because you outside is popular does not make your inside anybetter. when you get out of high school, home coming queen, class president, snob, nerd, slut, freak, it doesnt matter anymore. no one knows your past. dont make others like you, like yourself and you will find the best friends and significant other.
heres something esle i hate: actors who play 15 year olds and are over 20. this makes kids think they are ugly or not good enough. well duh! a 15 year olds got a lot of growing to do. TV is such a negetive influence in so many ways
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Post by aquaorca on Jan 29, 2004 21:51:08 GMT -5
sorry that was really long should have put more paragraphs in it
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Post by Lynnet on Jan 29, 2004 23:21:33 GMT -5
So what your saying is you like having guys stare at your boobs? You like people giving you extra attention just because of what is on the outside? You like having people think indecent things about you in class? why do you feel you need the extra attention? If you like tight close so much then wear an undershirt Okay...first of all, it doesn't particularly matter to me if they stare or not. It's not harming me in any way, and it might please them in some strange way which I don't really understand...but still, not hurting anyone. If they're thinking indecent things in class, they should learn to focus on class...there are distractions everywhere in life, and everyone needs to learn to deal with them. And again, I don't care what people think about what I look like, as long as it stays in their thoughts and they don't use those thoughts as negative judgement. And as long as I'm not being talked about or being put down for appearance or asking too many questions or having some idea of what's going on around me or any other reason, I'll be fine. I don't think people should judge others by what's on the outside. Also, in some ways I'm probably putting myself at a slight disadvantage, because many people don't respect girls with big boobs or whatever because they can be stereotypically airheads. But I don't hide what I look like; I embrace it. And if people want to give more attention to me because of how I look, it's their issue. If that's how the system wants to work, that's how I'll use it. Call me manipulative or whatever, but I'm just dealing with the world around me, the judgemental hellhole that it is. Agh, I don't know how to say what I'm thinking really...I definitly am not a whore/slut/whathaveyou, and I really *don't* dress like one...in fact, sex disgusts me at this point in time. In fact, I hate, loathe, and despise living in a physical existance with a passion!!! I might look like I could be athletic, but I'm not. I don't have the level of health to be thus and never will...I don't want pity so I won't go into why, because you'll just think I'm stupid. But anyway, as for wearing tight clothes, if I wore an undershirt all the time I'd just sweat and be hot and uncomfortable all the time and that wouldn't be nice now, would it? I pretty much always wear layers and the top one is very infrequently tight, since that would defeat the purpose....such as those girls who wear like 3 super-thin, super-tight long sleeved shirts that don't even keep them warm...I personally find that rather pointless when you can wear a single, thick long-sleeve shirt, or a short-sleeve with a sweater over top... Also, another thing that bugs me in the realm of clothes..... school shorts rule. I have long arms/fingers as with many people, so to actually wear shorts to school that are legal, they'd need to be maybe 2 inches at most above my knees. In case no one has checked recently, stores don't make very many shorts like that anymore for girls. I don't wear the ones that ride half way up your ass or anything, but they certainly aren't that long, and I really don't like them that long...it's just an awkward length for me...but yeah, that's just always bugged me, cause I don't much like the whole capri thing...I actually found one pair that fits, but they aren't much different than pants when you're walking home in 80 degree weather...I wish it were 80 degrees right now...::shiver:: That was really ranty and I skipped around probably...but yeah. Don't know me for who you think I am. Know me for who I am.
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