S1DC
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Post by S1DC on Jan 3, 2004 2:51:42 GMT -5
Alright, here is my random thought for today.
I am my own reciprocate. I am both ultimately good and ultimately evil. Both of the traits being unattainable, i have to exist within the boundries these elements create. Contained throughout this mentality resides a simple lexicon of thoughts and feelings which contribute to who i am. However, for whatever i am i also am equally not, and that not resides within me as well, it is simply not manifest. So through an alternate manifestation i am my reciprocate, while my essence remains within the original stated confines, these being ultimate good and ultimate evil (UG and UE).
So what am i in the end? Well to define who i am would require me to be objective, which is impossible from within the confines of UG and UE. Therefore, the only person capable of measuring my traits in leigh of good or evil would have to be an extreme from without this whole system, aka God or Satan, or some other outside being who resides without the normal confines of UG and UE.
It is as it was stated by platos, "Man cannot fully understand man from wherein man resides", IE man's mind cannot understand itself or any other mind just as a computer cannot begin to understand itself.
Bear in mind, i do not hold these statements as personal fact, just speculation. Although for now, it makes sense to me.
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Post by PaganPriest on Jan 3, 2004 2:57:14 GMT -5
Alright, here is my random thought for today. I am my own reciprocate. I am both ultimately good and ultimately evil. Both of the traits being unattainable, i have to exist within the boundries these elements create. Contained throughout this mentality resides a simple lexicon of thoughts and feelings which contribute to who i am. However, for whatever i am i also am equally not, and that not resides within me as well, it is simply not manifest. So through an alternate manifestation i am my reciprocate, while my essence remains within the original stated confines, these being ultimate good and ultimate evil (UG and UE). So what am i in the end? Well to define who i am would require me to be objective, which is impossible from within the confines of UG and UE. Therefore, the only person capable of measuring my traits in leigh of good or evil would have to be an extreme from without this whole system, aka God or Satan, or some other outside being who resides without the normal confines of UG and UE. It is as it was stated by platos, "Man cannot fully understand man from wherein man resides", IE man's mind cannot understand itself or any other mind just as a computer cannot begin to understand itself. Bear in mind, i do not hold these statements as personal fact, just speculation. Although for now, it makes sense to me. wow! the christ and anti-christ herself
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Post by H-Zence on Jan 3, 2004 17:26:33 GMT -5
Sounds like split-personality disorder to me. ;D
The same thing you are in the beginning - yourself.
Although in a way I kind of have to disagree with your topic. If you're a Christian then you believe that man is inherently evil and NOT good - though he has the ability to do good. Which means you're not UG and UE, you're simply UE and nothing else. UG could then be considered "God". This makes way for a possible third element to the theory, which I would most likely call the Purification Process, or PP. (Lol) Only through UG can PP be achieved. After PP is achieved then you might be able to say that you are in between UE and UG, but it would only be for a few minutes or so before "inpure thoughts" occur. Then, you would again be back to UE.
However, if you're not a Christian then what you said makes sense and really there's no arguing.
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S1DC
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Post by S1DC on Jan 3, 2004 18:28:04 GMT -5
If you're a Christian then you believe that man is inherently evil and NOT good - though he has the ability to do good. Which means you're not UG and UE, you're simply UE and nothing else. UG could then be considered "God". This makes way for a possible third element to the theory, which I would most likely call the Purification Process, or PP. (Lol) Only through UG can PP be achieved. After PP is achieved then you might be able to say that you are in between UE and UG, but it would only be for a few minutes or so before "inpure thoughts" occur. Then, you would again be back to UE. However, if you're not a Christian then what you said makes sense and really there's no arguing. Good point. However, Christian mentality says we are inherently evil, although not ENTIRELY evil. Complete evil would be the complete lack of good, which all humans have some of regardless of cynical veiws, and thus we are still stuck inside the UG-UE syntax, regardless of faith.
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 9, 2004 16:48:58 GMT -5
So plato is telling me to ask someone higher then i what i am. Wouldnt it be convenient if the one that created us would tell us about us. It would be even more convenient if we could obtain this in book form.
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Post by WaffleHouse on Jan 11, 2004 1:46:18 GMT -5
well Joe your issue is that you are an egotistical maniac who likes the sound of your own voice
But it is also bullshit
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Post by WaffleHouse on Jan 11, 2004 1:46:45 GMT -5
thanks for giving back my camera
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Post by Scot on Jan 11, 2004 1:52:53 GMT -5
lmao...
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Post by Colliohn on Jan 13, 2004 22:54:44 GMT -5
You know what else would be good?
A group of people throughout hundreds of generations, who devote a good deal of their lives to learning about the world around them, and recording their observations so that others might learn from them and benefit. Oooh, and if these observations were backed up by proof, if they were well documented, and then taught to us in school so that we may learn how the world works.
What would make this even better is if there wasn't another group that spent little energy in actual observation, but more in conjecture and in making up fiction in an attempt to disprove the generations of scholars and scientists before them, simply because they didn't like a truth that contradicted lies they wished to instill based on their cult and its teachings.
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 13, 2004 23:21:51 GMT -5
sorry buddy but its not backed up by proof as you have claimed, otherwise evolution would be a law and not a theory. We would study the LAW of the big banh instead of the theory of the big bang.
And thank you for making fun of me but i was asked to come to this forum to voice my oppinion. I did not come here just so i could voice my oppion and get bashed by a bunch of people who claim to be open minded then throw rat feces in your face everytime you make a good point. In fact you can ask people who know me personlly, i tend to keep my mouth shut, i am not very outspoken in class. I usually keep my beliefs to myself because i know there are so many jerks like you who just bash and bash everything you say even when it makes perfect sence
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Post by Colliohn on Jan 13, 2004 23:31:21 GMT -5
I bash? You insulted me, as an atheist, multiple times. As I saw it, I was defending my beliefs.
And once again, before insulting me farther, please actually read my posts and do a little bit of reasearch? I am pretty sure I've explained why the Big Bang and Evolution are only theories multiple times...
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Post by Scot on Jan 13, 2004 23:32:59 GMT -5
sorry buddy but its not backed up by proof as you have claimed, otherwise evolution would be a law and not a theory. We would study the LAW of the big banh instead of the theory of the big bang. Well there sir if Christianity had the backed up proof you say it does then wouldn't that be a law too? It's just an idea, just like the big bang, and any other idea.
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 14, 2004 11:30:59 GMT -5
true but in most cases scientists dismiss the idea of creation because they refuse to believe in a God so the ignore the evidense and proof.
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Post by Scot on Jan 14, 2004 17:03:32 GMT -5
Yes but also in most cases christians dismiss the idea of anything but there being a God because most of them don't feel like doing research into anything else
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Post by joelhaldeman on Jan 16, 2004 16:15:24 GMT -5
true, and it really sucks to have thoe people representing my beliefs. They should make a tv show "Christians say the darndest things" I get really mad when listening to other chistians speak. Most of them believe and when i ask them why the believe in God there like "Well just cuz he does" Im sick of hearing people give answers like that. Im not accusing you of judging me but please dont judge me based on what other christians do
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