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Post by Scot on Jan 16, 2004 22:22:01 GMT -5
That's funny because I said...
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And Joel honestly I feel sorry for your religion. Just this evening I have had some bad experiences with 'christians'....well, what I am saying is, some people say they are part of your religion, and they are really not. It pisses me off beyond anything, how there are so many hypocritical assholes who call themselves children of the lord and say that they are saved when they are really just using the 'saved factor' so they can get away with anything. This isn't you Joel, this is someone else. Peace to you, thank you for remaing logical and rational, while so many others don't.
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Post by JohnnyJihadFace on Feb 28, 2004 0:55:49 GMT -5
sorry buddy but its not backed up by proof as you have claimed, otherwise evolution would be a law and not a theory. We would study the LAW of the big banh instead of the theory of the big bang. And thank you for making fun of me but i was asked to come to this forum to voice my oppinion. I did not come here just so i could voice my oppion and get bashed by a bunch of people who claim to be open minded then throw rat feces in your face everytime you make a good point. In fact you can ask people who know me personlly, i tend to keep my mouth shut, i am not very outspoken in class. I usually keep my beliefs to myself because i know there are so many jerks like you who just bash and bash everything you say even when it makes perfect sence the problem is joel that you did not make a good point that makes perfect sense, not even close.
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Post by JohnnyJihadFace on Feb 28, 2004 0:58:59 GMT -5
true but in most cases scientists dismiss the idea of creation because they refuse to believe in a God so the ignore the evidense and proof. AH! I might lose it here, Joel. Would you please stop being so ridiculous? Proof? That is laughable at best. Problem is to hear you say it gets on my nerves instead of my funny bone. to say that SCIENTISTS, of all people, dismiss creation because they refuse to believe in a god and ignore EVIDENCE AND PROOF? are you kidding me? pulling my chain? taking me for a ride? this is astoundingly stupid, and no, I truely do not find YOU stupid at all, but consider what you just said. What is science based on? what are scientists LIVES based on? It is based on observations of such things like say.. EVIDENCE, and even more ridiculous of you to say, PROOF. When scientists can literally prove something, it becomes fact, I cannot believe you have the gaul to sit there and type what you did out. you want to know who ignores HORDES of evidence and yes, in some cases what I would call proof? CHRISTIAN CREATION ORGANIZATIONS. in ridiculous amount as well.. I have read entire debates in which one of the front runners at the institute for creation research gets his ass HANDED TO HIM over noah's ark and evolutionary shizat. And I mean he is so badly beaten in this discussion that at one part Frank zindler asks him the same BLUNT QUESTION literally more than 4 times in a row and the ICR top dog John morris so so so very blatantly attempted to get around it, it was so obvious he may as well have gone silent. if you would like to observe this, simply ask me for a link. You see there is a group of "scientists" that ignore evidence and what may be interpretted as proof, but it is certainly on the christian side of things, which fits the profile in a very direct way. I was reading an article once about the ICR, believe it or not thats up to you, but if you don't know, they are supposed to be this big top dog of the creation science field doing 'research' and shit and upon examination of their facility there was literally no scientific equipment in the building, no experiments being undertaken, I'm telling you the place was worse off than our chemistry classes. this entire discussion is ridiculous, as I said... your words were foolish.
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Post by joelhaldeman on Feb 29, 2004 0:21:53 GMT -5
i agree with you to a point actually. What i said was pretty stupid so im gonna change that statement to this "Evolutionists ignore evidense of creation equally as much as christians ignore evidense of evolution. It is very very very hard for a person to conduct an experiment with an unbiased opinion" People generally want to be right and a lot of times(NOT ALL) a person will believe what there earth science teacher tells them. Now the earth science teachers teach evolution, im sure you can see what point im getting at
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Post by Colliohn on Feb 29, 2004 20:58:01 GMT -5
The point you're getting at is that young people are impressionable when told things by people in authority positions. Such as Earth Science teachers. Or MINISTERS.
Your argument can go exactly the same way about people learning the bible in Sunday school or from a parent who teaches them about Christianity.
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Post by joelhaldeman on Feb 29, 2004 21:13:02 GMT -5
yeah i guess your right
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