Jedikiller
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Post by Jedikiller on Mar 2, 2005 0:09:02 GMT -5
I would like to say something about how everything happens for a reason or doesn't happen for a reason.
Sometimes the reason isn't one that we would like to hear. Like with the 9/11 attacks. They were tragic. But look what happened to our country. It pulled itself together like not seen since WWII. I'm NOT saying 9/11 was good, I'm just saying that God's purpose wasn't evil.
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Post by critr on Mar 2, 2005 2:55:29 GMT -5
we also have devoloved from First creation,so we don't know what even we are capable of much less God in the flesh.
His and Hers critr ;D
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Post by Electron on Mar 2, 2005 5:00:36 GMT -5
God would not have to be constrained by the same limitations. Sure, God might have a liver, I don't know, but that doesn't mean that he HAS to have a liver. That doesn't mean he HAS to have the same muscle tone as we do to walk around on Earth, and not the moon, for example. You have still not taken on board my argument. I know better than to attempt to constrain god in any way, from the wideley held definition of god such an attempt would obviously be futile. Think about what I said this way: The being that is constrained here is man - our shape and size are inextricably linked to the shape and size of our environment. Once you come to accept that fact - you are then left with wondering how god came to copy us from his own shape. It simply cannot be so, becasue it would imply in turn that his shape was subject to identical constraints. This is what falsifies the notion that he could create us in his physical image. You can't just say "god does not need to be constrained" - it only works one way round i.e. god could have made himself in our image, no problem. But working it the other way around, if our constrained form is a clone of him, then he must share our consraints.
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Jedikiller
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Post by Jedikiller on Mar 2, 2005 13:13:11 GMT -5
Couldn't God have created our environment to suite our bodies? Ok, I agree, God must have "grown up" in the same type of environment that we now "grow up" in. But what is wrong with that?
Another thing is this. We are all pre-destined to become Gods ourselves. Our God had to go through the same testing that we now go through. WHy not have the same physical limitations as we do now, but once he became Godly they no longer applied to him?
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Post by Satori on Mar 2, 2005 13:34:06 GMT -5
Couldn't God have created our environment to suite our bodies? I'd suggest that it's more likely to be the other way around; ie. our bodies evolved (or God created them) to suit the environment. Couldn't that be true whether or not one believes that it was God who instigated it?
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Jedikiller
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Post by Jedikiller on Mar 2, 2005 14:37:09 GMT -5
I'd suggest that it's more likely to be the other way around; ie. our bodies evolved (or God created them) to suit the environment. Couldn't that be true whether or not one believes that it was God who instigated it? Yes it could work both ways. To me it all depends on whether or not you believe God created the earth himself. If he did (which I believe he did) then that means he probably created the Earth to mold to our bodies needs. But, if you believe that we evolved on an Earth already here, then yes, we might have changed to meet the earths needs.
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Post by Electron on Mar 4, 2005 10:15:28 GMT -5
I'd suggest that it's more likely to be the other way around; ie. our bodies evolved (or God created them) to suit the environment. Couldn't that be true whether or not one believes that it was God who instigated it? Yes Satori, but you seem to be missing my original point... if god created us to suit our environment AND we share his form, THEN his form is a reflection of a similar environment - a form that has arisen on Earth due to very specific conditions.
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Post by scottishpunk on May 11, 2005 19:09:40 GMT -5
Read my response in "What does God need with testicles?" for my take on this issue.
I don't necessarily believe that God created us in his image in a physical sense, but moreso that he created us with minds and spirits, and that we posess certain characteristics that reflect His personality...
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