Post by pwrtrip9000 on Jan 24, 2004 16:33:50 GMT -5
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Ok, for the sake of total logical argument, I'm starting this thread. All arguments in a LOGICAL method to be posted. All of math is based on LAWS, POSTULATES, CORROLATIONS, and THEORUMS, (pardon the spelling). 1+1=2 0*0=0 The idea of infinity is mind blowing. Given that we live in a world of LAW & ORDER (no pun intended) Doesn't it stand to reason that random chance really doesn't have a place in the order of the universe.
joelhaldeman said:
If you walk through the woods and see a 3 random rocks laying there you will say "this came about by random chance" If you walk to stone henge your going to think "this is no way random, this MUST have been created" If you look at a human being and all its incredible parts you are going to say "this was created, there is no way on earth this is random". Now take a look at our complex and incredible universe, your going to tell me that something exploded and after a while it became this? Out of random chance?
The fact of the matter is that those supposedly three random rocks aren't really so random. They got there by the laws of Cause and Effect. Erosion played a roll, all acording to densities and solubility of the base componants of the rocks. There is a specific law to how rocks are made. As said in another place, Igneous rock comes from volcanic activity. You wouldn't expect to find a small piece of it inbetween two layers of sedimentary rock. Now if it were in the shape of an arrowhead and you found fossilized bones of some animal with them that would seem to point to a certain cause and effect, the intelligence of man. Random chance (chaos) would not have telaported igneous rock to the center of a stream bed to later become a part of sedimentary rock. By the very nature of Law and Order, Chaos cannot exist. If you really want to see some arguments check this out.
emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/agetalk/index.htm
Stars are continually changing hydrogen into helium, and hydrogen cannot be produced in any appreciable quantity though the breakdown of the other elements, yet the universe consists almost entirely of hydrogen, indicating a beginning of the universe not long ago (Fred Hoyle). I find that argument rather interesting don't you?
emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/agetalk/sld021.htm
More interesting arguments for Creation of the Earth via an Omnipotent "God".
emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/agetalk/sld022.htm
So this basically distills it all down to the fact that even science gets to a point where it comes down to oppinion and not fact, cause niether argument can truely be proven, and that's if you accept the current modem that what we have in the way of methods of scientific study is accurate and that we're not just a bunch of ignorant people stumbling around in the dark with an arrogant view of our ultimate importance in the greater picture of what ever may be driving this existance we call Life.
